nam june paik and john cage – in coversation (part 1 & part 2)
- the failure of technology as beautiful – paik
- “it is very important to do unimportant things” – cage
- Malevich
- Experiments Art Technology – a failure, but a beautiful failure as it proved that technology could fail
- Story about the phones being off the hook for Cage’s piece, but engineers
- The Well and Cage’s writings
- Audio-vidual artworks – “back to the stone age” – “all this electronic information has no weight, no gravity”
- engineers understanding the workings of art – Cage’s story of the telephone piece in NYC, where the engineers saw the phones off the hook – for that performance, “if we were cats and dogs, we only had three legs.”
Another Interview with Cage:
“Everything has a spirit and that spirit can be released by setting whatever it is into vibration.” – Oscar Fischinger
On the invention of ideas, the invention of the prepared piano – “That’s the trouble, of course, for any individual. There is the rest of society and the rest of history. I think we have to take that circumstance as the means upon which we work to help us discover the nature of the next step, rather than taking it as something to lament. That’s what my father would have done.”
e e cummings: “sweet spontaneous earth.”
on nature, conservation: “I won’t even support something like the Wilderness Society, and I love mushrooms, the forest, and all that. But I hate what those institutions are doing to them. Do you know what they do? They buy up a big piece of what you might call wilderness, or waste land, land that no industry or metropolis has thought suitable for a city or factory. Then they make rules that you can’t pick anything. You have to approach the whole thing as a museum. And they are turning the whole of nature into museums in the name of saving the wilderness, but with no good reason or purpose.”osweetspontaneousearth_eecummings.jpg
embarassing governments out of existence: “Thoreau said: “Government is a tree, its fruit are people. As people ripen, they drop from the tree”-his Essay on Civil Disobedience.”
“In India they say: “Music is continuous, it is we who turn away.”"
Postmodernism and the Music of John Cage (pdf)
“Composition as Process” – redefining the composition as a non-static “object”
Criticism of Cage
- Yvonne Rainer said that random processes did not awaken us to the “excellent life we are living,” but instead leads us to question why we may have been lead to believe that this is so (by external forces, governments, commerciality, etc.?).
- Adorno said that interpenetration of the sounds of the world, etc., removed the independence of the composer as a critical force in the world.
- Goehr – specific performances were very prescribed and still functioned within the concert hall…
- 1970s postmodern writings using Cage, et al., as the initiation of the movement – overlooking the earlier work of fuurists… Russolo
- Cage’s study of Satie, Boulez – bringing history
- Boulez critical of Cage’s chance/indeterminacy: “The only thing, forgive me, which I am not happy with, is the method of absolute chance (by tossing the coins). On the contrary, I believe that chance must be extremely controlled: by using tables in general, or series of tables, I believe that it would be possible to direct the phenomenon of the automatism of chance, whether written down or not. . . there is already quite enough of the unknown.”
- Cage (postmodernism) vs. Boulez (avant garde) is too simple
- both believed in building on tradition – the notion of progress
- Second Viennese School – reinterpretation
- Cage was very interested to carve his place in history, to invent things
main point of essay: “His move away from self-expression resonates with the multiple voices of postmodernism, although indeterminacy operated within his chosen parameters.”
historical effect: “In the 1960s and 70s, Fluxus musicians went on to explore this idea of the “open work”, which anticipated conceptual art.”