New Media, Art-Science, and Mainstream Contemporary Art: Toward a Hybrid Discourse
Leonardo Education Forum
Ed Shanken’s write up and recordings here
Philip Galanter
- Positing ‘complexism’ as a new paradigm for art-sci fusion
- new media and art-science (are these the same?) are here again… “locked out of the mainstream art work”
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PG suggests this is possibly because of…
- expectation of uniqueness – presumably ‘unique’ here referring to object singularity?
- long term preservation
- potential re-sale value
- PG is here addressing the “art world and market”
- question here is if there is a difference between these two things – what do we mean by mainstream contemporary art world?
- See Burnham’s point that the “art world” is not actually interested in most forms of ‘innovation’ – this is a lie. Perhaps this is because we assume that there is an assumption about the existence of an “art world” in the first place…
- Mentiones ‘hedonic adventure’, ‘asthetic escape,’ ‘political and social critique’ as values in the art world – to which art-science and new media have much to contribute
- locates the rift as a deeper conflict – CP snow – the two cultures…
- 1959 Rede lecture “The Two Cultures”
- modernity vs. science
- post-modernity vs. humanities
- PG’s PROBLEM: “bumper sticker philosophy”
- post modernity is a destabilisation of prior conjectures
- art students learn postmodern cultural theory as ‘bumper sticker philosophy’
- science is the opposite of this destabilisation (stable, factual, data-driven)
- MODERN V POSTMODERN:
- Modern:
- scientistic
- positivistic
- realistic
- metaphysical
- Postmodern
- humanistic
- skeptical
- unstable
- contradictory
- Not sure I agree here – science may be ‘negative’ in its predeliction deconstruction – it’s very epistemology. Perhaps these are are different kinds of ‘skepticism’ – material skepticism of science and the humanistic (e.g.: ‘all the world’s a stage’) skepticism of the humanities?
- Art became post-modern, science ‘remained’ modern – so when art involves science it is skeptical, dystopic, and detached from material science itself
- My biggest issue with this is that it doesn’t acknowledge my of the cross-linking of these cultures that has been on-going (computing culture, the postmodern having been informed by, if not inspired by things like ‘virtual reality’ or networked rhizomatic structures – again much ado about nothing. The good life behind our backs…?)
- Modern:
- Lovejoy
- Early art-science practitioners were post-modernists already? (what does this mean?)
- By abandoning modernism, and killing progress, the post-modern artist could not ‘move forward’ into a new era
- Wilson
- art-scientists are accepted by neither community – ‘in-group peers’
- so called “science wars” of the 1990’s
- Sokol hoax
- Complexity
- PG posits complexity and emergence as a way forward
- complex systems are large individual systems with large numbers of interactions (Flusser and structural vs. functional complexity)
- self-organization, emergent phenomena
- e.g.: weather, the middle east, brain (, the mind!!??), culture… Burnham’s analysis of the art world again relevant here
- measured in terms of the DISORDER (DoF, freedom) <–> ORDERED (structure, historicity- stability in time)
- disordered without being random
- structured without being reductionist
- Generative Art
- Tiling and the age-old use of simple elements related
- Cage / Burroughs
- evolutionary programming, artificial life, synthetic biology – a bridge where science and humanity meet in complexity
- World Views
- Modernity and post-modernity are reductionist in their approaches to complexity
- “Old science” and its modernist and simplistic models
- Humanities with its simplistic reduction to ‘randomness’ and relativism
- Authorships
- modern: author –> master work –> audience
- postmodern: author is dead. audience –> work
- complexity: author –> work –> audience becomes author –> work –> etc.
- Will cutting edge complexity artistic be a bridge or be ‘shot from both sides’ by humanities and science (sounds like the same question art science has been asking for a long time…?)
- My notes on PG’s presentation
- My own take on this is that the divergence described by CP Snow may have been much ado about nothing – or a self-unfulfilling prophesy. In the terms (conceptual, world-views, epistemologies) developed here, the humanities and science are not as different culturally as they may first (on PG’s “surface”) appear. More to the point – these cultures, if they are in fact distinct – inform one another ‘behind the scenes’… cybernetics, emergences, ecologies – Stiegler’s “co-originarity of technics and the human,” epiphylogenesis. I.e.: Cubism was a reaction to the camera, and post-modernity a reaction and result of networks. Derrida wrote on a word-processor.
- “art-science” is an interesting term – a little like ‘digital media.’ is there any other kind of media?
- Fostering difference within related communities to counteract propensities towards amalgamation in both post-modern and modern discourse (epiphilogenesis under economic force, for example, becomes the unfortunate singularity of MySpace? But critical epiphilogenesis is… ??? something better maybe… )
- culture of science and culture of humanities can be built…
- science of complexity -
Ji-hoon Kim – Networks of Interfaces: Expanded Cinema and the Pursuit of the Active Spectator Since the 1960′s
- cinema as artform
- different forms of user involvement – different than the immobile audience position in a cinema
- cinema becomes blended with television, video, internet, mobile media –> architecture, performance, installation
- prefigured by Paik, Warhol, Sharits, Nauman, Grice, Conrad, etc.
- correspondences between 60s/70s spectatorial activities (does JK mean cinema here?) and participatory digital interactivity
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Project: “Networks of Interfaces: “Expanded Cinema and the Pursuit of Active Spectator Since the 1960s”
- remapping expanded cinema
- avant-garde artists and filmakers
- today’s artist-engineers
- looked at an ‘intersection of forms’ – video art + architecture + performance (is this right? are these new forms or an intersection of forms?)
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the active spectator, active in the following ways
- mentally
- aesthetically
- physically
- affectively (i don’t get this)
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“genealogical approach to the reconfigurations of human sense and mind”
- human-machine interaction
- “technologically mediated situations where… phsychophysical interaction takes place”
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Participatory spectator of 1960s versus today’s “interactive user”
- kinds, types, what is activity
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Active spectator comes about for JK via:
- phenomenology
- critical media theory
- cybernetics
- information theory
- cinema and digital media art are compared
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digital networking systems are unique
- grounded in theoretical-discursive tripartite formation…
- … but different from pre-digital and proto-digital expanded cinema
- fundamental hybridization between heterogeneous technical and aesthetic elements (man and machine)
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Youngblood
- “intermedia network”
- expanded cinema as transformative of human consciousness, co-evolution
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important implications of “expanded cinema”
- artistic principles for the rethinking of the art object, practice and human subjects (audience)
- overlaps with concepts of televisual and computational media – systems, processes, cybernetics, real time, feedback
- JK’s project uses Youngblood’s expands expanded cinema in two ways:
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term includes artists who explictly adapt film and cinema in their work (McCall – Line Describing a Cone / 1973, Sharits – Shutter Interface / 1975, CCTV art by Graham and Naumann), information technology principles (Les Levine, Hans Haacke), performance-driven film projection (Le Grice After Leonardo / 1973, Conrad Four Squares / 1971)
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JK is critical of oppositional definitions of expanded cinema:
- the ‘taking up’ of cinema through television, video and computer (technological genealogy)
- the use of the cinema-as-theatre to explore performance, viewing situations (cinematic apparatus approach)
- art-and-technology and art since minimalism and conceptualism are both rooted in phenomenology, critical media studies and cybernetics and information theory (I basically agree with this – just saying that art is an intellectural activity – drawing on culture)
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JK is critical of oppositional definitions of expanded cinema:
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expanded cinema – a heuristic terminological device for dissolving medium boundaries
- Higgins, Kaprow, Fluxus, Burnham – borders of a medium are historically conditioned and ontologically unstable
- e.g.: modern sculpture – Krauss, Annette Michelson, Morris and Serra – phenomologising of sculpture
- N. K. Hayles, M. B. N. Hansen – embodied perception
- Vivian Sobchack – film studies
- Graham – CCTV works – Maurice Merleau Ponty / Lacan / Bateson updated with a little Dourish / Damasio / Activity Theory
- new media theory overlooks how the concept of the active spectator has developed – much as the art world failed to look at the body-technology in evaluating critical distance
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JK’s dissertation “Between Film, Video, and the Digital: The Art of the Moving Image, Medium Specificity and Intermediality”
- hybrid images – ontology of impure form as interrelation of different media forms: film, video, digital
- intermediality – a mediums multidimensional interactions with other media shape in response to the impact of electronic and digital technologies
- digitization and ‘the digital’ is a site and catalyst of this hybridization
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this research shares with this current postdoctoral project key elements:
- engagement with the discourses on medium specificity
- quest for conceptual space for explaining convergence of media resulting in divergent artistic practices
- intermediality as a concept for artistic forms that spring from media in plural/heterogeneous forms
- video installation – Doug Aitken, etc. – relationships of image and its ‘apparatus’ (viewer’s frontal position, etc.)
- larger spatio-temporal structure of experience: IMAGE, APPARATUS and SUBJECTIVITY
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Working on the term INTERFACE:
- point of interaction between user / computer – mouse
- means of communication between user / computer -
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much like the “apparatus” of film theory and critical media studies (social / ideological determinations via…)
- camera and object – image
- image and screen – projection
- screen and spectator
- hope to get out of this a comparative dialogue between active-spectator-in-art and, active-spectator-in-cinema-studies, and active-spectator-in-media-studies
- e.g.: Merleau-Ponty’s phenomenology influences art criticism, film theory, and new media (embodied experience)
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My notes on JK’s presentation
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basically positing expanded cinema as another field for bridging shisms between art-technology and mainstream art. i.e.: two discourses that don’t match up which both come out of treatments of cinema:
- digital cinema is related to art-and-technology, interaction, etc.
- avant-garde film, or experimental film is related to the ‘art world’
- possibility of the “hybridization of machines and humans”! Awesome.
- going beyond technological determinis
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basically positing expanded cinema as another field for bridging shisms between art-technology and mainstream art. i.e.: two discourses that don’t match up which both come out of treatments of cinema:
Paul Thomas
- a reemergent symbiosis of fine art and science
- contemporary university/educational framework
- medi arts education as a trans-disciplinary model – opening up along with critical engagement (i.e.: going towards that which you do not agree with in order to become “directly entangled” – e.g.: Nam June and the “I use technology in order to more properly hate it”) s
- Oron Catts, Ionat Zurr, Stelarc, Eduardo Kac, Char Davies, Orlan – show that you can be critical of what technology imposes on our subjectivity -
- Garoian and Gaudelius 2001 – “cyborg pedagogy”
- I.e.: studying technologies through artistic practice
- Experimentation and experimental practice in learning through Deleuzian methodologies for education
- science and technology come into our lives via “cultural advancement” and “creative industries”
- fine artists don’t critically address or analyze communications/information
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Theory
- research strategies within fine art – critical engagement, reflection, plastic processes
- post-new-media art alternative curriculum approaches
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John Lutz – “The potential form Improving Science Education Through Transdisciplinary Intergration with Art Education”
- commitment to theory is important
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Beauchamp
- theory accounting for observations
- causes and effects
- predictions of observations
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Fitting this to fine art curriculum:
- territory from which to formulate an opinion
- plastic process of making
- fantastic speculation, imagination – new knowledge!
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Stephen Wilson – Information Arts book
- artists need to participate in science
- “expand conceptual notions of what constitutes and artistic education”
- motivation here was to “help” researcher – give it new directions, give science a hand…
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Transdciplinarity is the space of the nomad – Deleuze & Guattari
- the nomad exists to occupy, inhabit, research
- territory of description – experimentation as a theory of becoming
- nomadic transdisciplinarity: “interacts with the space within the institution (desert) as a holistic topographical site”
- My notes on PT’s presentation
Christine Paul – New Media in the Mainstream
- Historical account
- Identifies historical baggage of new media and mainstream art’s difficult relationship
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New media and art world uneasy relations:
- exhibition histories – art-historical developments – technology / participatory
- “Challenges that new media art poses to institutions and the art market”
- New Media: computable art that is created, stored, and distributed via digital technologies. Aspects:
- process-oriented
- time-based
- dynamic
- real-time
- participatory
- collaborative
- performative
- modular
- variable
- generative
- customisable
- Exhibitions and Historical Developments:
- Art has been shaped by concepts of participation, collaboration, social connectivity, performativity, and relational aspects
- Bourriaud – Rirkrit Tiravanija – meals
- 2008 Whitney Biennial – inverting the object-oriented operations of the art market – ephemerality: Yet no “New Media” appears.
- Tino Sehgal’s This Progress - social interaction as a medium
- Culture is networked, digital and so the art world is reacting to this – yet works that use these technologies is “conspicuously absent” from major exhibitions
- Relational Aesthetics Syndrome
- “a set of artistic practices which take as their theoretical and practical point of departure the hole of thuman relations and their social context, rather than an independent and private space”
- artists sited by Bourriaud are never new media artists – even through he uses terms like “user-fiendly” “interactive” and “DIY”
- does “relational aesthetics” come from the “relational database”?
- Bourriaud doesn’t like the 1960s associations – he wants new analyses that are not internal to the artworld – but external and resistant of the “Society of the Spectacle”
- Claire Bishop’s book – Participation – table of contents has no contemporary prominent theorists of new media art
- 1960′s participatory art was obviously related responses to scultural and tcechnological developments
- Similarity between the 60s and 70s separation between art world and technology -
- Relational Aesthetic Symptoms – collecting conserving and commodifying the work
Jamie Allen – Could This Be What It Looks Like?
- Youtube intro re: popular culture (“mainstream”), counter-culturalism, and technology
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Historical discussion of the counter-cultural roots of new media / art-and-technology
- Conceptualism and artistic practices emerging from a moment of intense experimentation with new technologies
- Technological development as informed by counter-cultural ideals (Menlo Park, Stewart Brand, Cage, Happenings)
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Resulting in a short-lived techno-artistic avant garde – which was “split” in 1970. Burnham vs. McShine
- conceptual art went one way – artlike art?
- art-and-technology went another – lifelike art?
- We should be surprised that new media is difficult to absorb into mainstream art world culture – that’s where its roots lie – in a radically anti-art and anti-establishment practice
- “hippie computer nerd” sensibilities of new media artists
- the “liquidation of the artist” being proposed was full – and may have taken place with YouTube
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My notes on my own presentation
- Contradictions here about a counter-culture that doesn’t want to enter into the artworld, but does want to enter into popular culture (Adorno would say that this is the point of high-art, to prevent such vulgarisation)
- Materialism – where do we ‘locate’ the force of technology/material in all these human vectors of artistic and technological practice. Are there materials/technologies which are ‘counter-cultural’?
Jane Prophet – Professional Fish Out of Water
- 20 years of practice – challenged – most productivity – complexity
- “the idea becomes a machine that makes the art”
- relationships of film and video -
- sci-art – subjugated sci-art – public engagement / understanding of sciecnce – illustrated scientific theory
Ronald Jones – please stand by….
- Fuller – a designer is an emerging synthesis of artist, inventor, mechanic
- Harvard Business Review – the common outcome of interdisciplinary practice is FAILURE
- breakthroughs that do arise – though rare – are incredibly value
- methods -
- critical theory – what is the continuing relevance of oppositional knowledge
- orwell – on dickens… moral criticism of Dickens – if men would behave decently the world would be a decent place.
- beyond the exausted forms of ‘mere consciousness raising’ – ‘merely worthwhile’
- modernism and relativism
- relativism is undone.
- post-critical perspective – pragmatism
- 1972 – grey water reclamation – Haacke – not a critique but a pragmatic and post-critical design of a system…
- merely a work of art
- thomas tharacino -
- ArtForum – hard science baked in – customized technology
- new life – dyson – the dominant science is biology – then biotechnology should be about new forms of animals and plants
- (joseph beuys)
- theoretical moonshine created by “BIO ART” – not real research…
- Art world is a debating club when approached as Eduardo Kac
- Restart culture – joseph kasuth
- POST CRITICALITY – awesome!
Paul Thomas – Transdisciplinary strategies for fine art and science …
- Haraway – direct engagement
- Culture and critique – explore the physical world
- Orlan Halekin Coat
- Theoretical constructs – educators
- George Beauchamp -
Things to look at before the session:
from JK
- affective interaction – what is this?
- “theoretical-discursive tripartite formation”
- McCall – Line Describing a Cone / 1973, Sharits – Shutter Interface / 1975, CCTV art by Graham and Naumann
- JK’s dissertation “Between Film, Video, and the Digital: The Art of the Moving Image, Medium Specificity and Intermediality”
from PG
- science wars of 1990s
- complexity theory
- latour – we have never been modern
- pamela lee book on time (modernism / post-modernism debate)
from PT
- Garoian and Gaudelius 2001 – “cyborg pedagogy” – sound useful in positing technology art practice in terms of how “technologies can be demystified, affected and resisted”
- how do we do this without being “in the service of…” or didactic…? “didactic arts…”
from JA
- Adorno – valuation of the real work – the ‘artistic’ community









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